Sydney Airport Community Forum

Federally-leased airports (excluding Mt. Isa and Tennant Creek) have established Community Aviation Consultation Groups (CACGs), which provide an effective avenue for local community engagement on airport planning and operations, including aircraft noise. The Department for Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Communications provides guidelines for CACGs.

Non federally-leased airports may also choose to establish CACGs or community forums.

CACG membership depends on the characteristics of the airport and any local issues of community concern however, generally includes:

  • airport management
  • aircraft operators
  • community organisations or representatives
  • representatives from state, territory or local government bodies
  • local tourism and business groups.

Airservices does not formally belong to CACGs, but is invited to attend to provide relevant information and assist in discussions. We engage with CACGs on flight path and airspace changes, as well as technical reviews, such as noise monitoring and noise abatement procedures.

Find our more information on the Sydney Airport Community Forum (SACF) webpage.

Meeting Summary Minutes

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Investigation: Southern departures trial

In 2013, we developed a trial departure procedure to minimise the noise impact on La Perouse and the Kurnell Peninsula.

The procedure was tested using flight simulators. While normal or low weight operations were able to fly the procedure, in certain weather conditions, heavy aircraft flew over the tip of the Kurnell Peninsula.

Overall, the trial procedure delivered no better outcome than the current design, so was not progressed.

Investigation: Departures during curfew

During the curfew (11pm to 6am) aircraft that are permitted to operate must depart towards the south over the water from Runway 16R (the western most of the parallel runways). The flight path used during the curfew is closer to the coast than the flight path used during the day.

The Aircraft Noise Ombudsman asked us to investigate whether it was feasible to move the curfew flight path further away from the coast. We found this was feasible but a more practical solution was to make the daytime jet departure path available for the non-jet aircraft that fly during curfew.

This would improve noise impacts during the curfew by moving aircraft further east of Cronulla, Bundeena and nearby areas. 

The change was implemented from 9 November 2017.

Further information about the change can be found on the Airservices website.

Investigation: Runway 34 arrivals over Newport (2024)

Learn about our investigation into Runway 34 arrivals over Newport into Melbourne Airport

A community proposal was presented to move the arrival flight path for Melbourne Airport Runway 34 (arrivals to the southern end of the north-south runway). Currently arrivals from the western side of the airport fly over the Newport and South Kingsville areas in making a left turn to join the final runway aligned straight-in approach to the runway. The suggestion was to move the left turn earlier so aircraft would fly over industrial areas of Altona North / the M1 before joining the runway aligned segment. This would result in a noise improvement for the Newport and South Kingsville areas.

Upon investigation, the proposal could not be implemented due to the location of Newport and South Kingsville being in alignment with Runway 34. Under precision landing approaches for Melbourne Airport, all aircraft arriving via Runway 34 must track via a waypoint called AKDEL.  A waypoint is a geographical location used to define a point on flight path and is defined by geographic coordinates. Unfortunately Newport/ South Kingsville is located under AKDEL.

AKDEL is in a very specific location based on runway alignment requirements and distance from the runway, in accordance with the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) procedures in flight path design that guide the distances of procedures, specified altitudes and turn angles. The tighter turn suggested cannot be achieved as turns of arrival flight paths are designed to ensure adequate distances for aircraft to be at precise minimum safe altitudes before commencing their descent into the airport following a 3 degree glide slope.

A further suggestion was made to design a second (alternate) flight path for non-heavy aircraft to take the shorter turn, allowing noise to be shared. In assessing flight path changes Airservices considers the efficient operations of the airport and also whether there would be an overall noise improvement for the community. This shorter arrival path from the west would expose suburbs including Sunshine, Saint Albans, Deer Park and Burnside to increased levels of aircraft noise. Airservices does not generally consider that moving noise from one part of the community to another is a noise improvement. Due to reasons outlined above, the proposal was deemed not feasible to proceed.

Useful documents and websites

Further information about aircraft operations

You can find a range of information on the Airservices website.

Accessing earlier noise and complaint information reports

Our interactive noise and complaint reports include data from 1 January 2017. Previous reports are available on request.

Understanding noise and annoyance – video

Everyone encounters sound every day. It is only when that sound causes an adverse effect on a listener, such as annoyance, does that sound become noise. Noise is not always just about how loud the sound is, there is a complex set of factors that drive annoyance both based upon the noise itself and what that noise means to us. Find out more by watching this video:

From the ATC archives – video

Take a look at how air traffic control and flight operations used to operate.

Introduction to aircraft noise

Although the terms noise and sound can be used interchangeably, noise is used to refer to an unwanted sound, while sound is the generic term used to refer to anything acoustic.

In the case of aircraft noise, the acoustic energy can pass through 500 metres to 10 kilometres (or more) of air to reach local communities. As a result an aircraft can sound very different depending on the distance between the community and the aircraft, be that at flying or on the ground at a nearby airport.

The following video explains how aircraft noise is generated and how the characteristics of sound from aircraft can vary depending on a range of factors, such as the height of the aircraft, the type of aircraft (jet/propeller), its speed and weather:

If you would like to read more about aircraft noise and how we monitor it, you can visit our aircraft noise webpage.

Investigation: Flight paths over Katoomba

We conducted a an investigation into whether it was feasible to alter the flight path over Katoomba (Blue Mountains), including what impact this would have on other routes.

Our investigation found this would adversely impact on safety and would not be operationally feasible due to the constraints of military airspace restrictions and air traffic control sector boundary and route segregation requirements.

We also found a change would negatively impact on communities closer to Sydney Airport.

A further investigation was conducted in 2017 for a noise improvement suggestion from the Aircraft Noise Ombudsman. This investigation found that the change would significantly increase complexity, did not meet accepted design standards and could have a negative impact on parts of the community closer to the airport.

Investigation: Direct tracking to Runways 21 and 24

The practice of direct tracking arrivals to Runways 21 and 24 over Stoneville and Parkerville, northeast of the airport, was addressed. “Direct tracking” involves taking an aircraft off the standard flight path and giving it a shorter route. This now only occurs when it is operationally required, for example, for traffic management reasons to ensure separation is maintained.

Sydney Area FAQ

Common questions that are asked in the Sydney Area:

How can I find out more information about Western Sydney Airport?

The flight paths and airspace design for Western Sydney International (Nancy-Bird Walton) Airport is being led by the Western Sydney Unit at the Department of Infrastructure, Transport, Regional Development and Communications. 

Further information on the airport and flight paths can be found on the Western Sydney Airport website.

Investigation: Jet departures from Runway 35

In November 2014, Airservices implemented a change of procedure that will require jet aircraft departing on Runway 35 to reach a ‘waypoint’ around 10 kilometres from the runway north of Canberra suburbs before turning left, rather than as soon as they reach 7 000 feet. This will result in jet aircraft flying over non-residential land rather than residential areas of Gungahlin.